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SUNDERLAND BASED SHIPPING COMPANIES
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A page already is on site about James Westoll & the James Westoll Line. This page covers other Sunderland ship owners - initially Robert H. Gayner & now Thomas Rose also - both assembled from data kindly provided by Clive Ketley, of the 'The Ketley Collection'.
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1 Thomas Rose - 'The Rose Line Limited' known as 'Tommy Rose', owning ships for over 65 years, from 1901 to 1968
2 Robert H. Gayner a fleet owner who would seem to have been in business for many decades - from 1854 to 1912 it would seem.
THOMAS ROSE (c.1874/1949)
THOMAS ROSE & CO. (1901/?)
THE ROSE LINE LIMITED (1913/?)
WEAR STEAM SHIPPING COMPANY LIMITED (1905/1917?)
WEAR STEAM SHIPPING COMPANY (1917) LIMITED (1917/1931)
DURHAM STEAMSHIP COMPANY LTD. (1913/?)
DEESIDE SHIPPING CO. LTD., of Aberdeen
WALFORD LINES
(OF WYLAM WHARF, SUNDERLAND)
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First a few images. Hover your mouse over each thumbnail to read the subject matter.
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In early 1968, a tiny 'Thomas Rose' vessel of just 315 tons, the Edenside, built by Richard Ironworks Ltd., of Lowestoft, was sold to 'North East by East Shipping Co. Ltd.' of Sunderland. The vessel soon became owned by 'N. Jadavji & S. G. Hirji' of Mombasa, Kenya. A tough little vessel most clearly - it lasted until Jan. 1995 when, after 54 years of service, it was broken up at Dar-es-Salaam.
A modest image of Thomas Rose (c.1874/1949).
Edenside the very last vessel in the 'Thomas Rose' fleet & its sale in 1968 ended the ship owning activities of Thomas Rose & successors which activities commenced way back in 1901. A period of over 65 years & two World Wars.
The ships that 'Thomas Rose' owned, directly & through a number of limited companies, were not giant ships by any imagination. They did not carry affluent passengers in floating palaces & in luxury to New York or Boston. The largest fleet vessel was indeed of just 1567 tons, & most of them were much smaller than that - modest little coasters/colliers. In the words of 'Blue Peter' - 'There are tidal ports to visit; there are bars to cross at which long-legged ships are useless; there are little towns and villages relying upon the cargoes brought to them by the little ship. Somebody must carry the oats, the grain, the potatoes, the burnt ore; the ships must be neat and handy. It's a little fellow's trade.'The 'Thomas Rose' ships surely did all of that - also they carried cement from Denmark & Belgium, they traded to the Baltic & into the Mediterranean - but mainly they carried coal & other cargoes up & down the U.K. east coast from Sunderland to ports in Scotland & in the Shetland & Orkney Islands.
Towards the end, however, such ships were unable to compete in the changing marketplace.
Thomas Rose, ship owner, ship broker, shipping agent, coal exporter & many other things besides, initially owned vessels in his own name, i.e. 'Thomas Rose' or 'Thomas Rose & Co.' But in 1913 he both founded 'The Rose Line Limited' (known as 'Tommy Rose'), & through that company purchased Wylam Wharf. a wharf & related dock & warehouses facility located on the S. bank of the River Wear immediately to the west of the Bodlewell Ferry landing. Wylam Wharf? A long established wharf, then over 100 years old, owned, certainly in the 1890s, by French & Co, as you can see next.
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'Bank Line Magazine', the staff magazine of Bank Line Limited, published in Feb. 1980 a 3 page article about 'The Rose Line Limited' written by R. T. Lambert (pages 1, 2 & 3). The article refers to the fact that Rose Line owned all of the bonded warehouses in Sunderland for then nearly 70 years. The author commented that a staff member of Bank Line who had dinner in a London hotel may well have drunk wines and sprits that had passed through the Rose Line bonded warehouses. And, should such staff member have chosen to eat lobster, it too may have come from Wylam wharf, where one of the warehouses contained large tanks containing live lobsters prior to being dispatched to hotels in the U.K. and to the Continent. The two companies, Bank Line & Rose Line, had in 1980 been associated for 45 years, Rose Line being the long term Sunderland agents for Bank Line.
You might say there was an amazing continuity in the management of Rose Line! The initial partners were Thomas Rose himself, Norman R. Rose (Thomas Rose's son) & R. T. Lambert. Thomas was in the business until he died on May 12, 1949 as Chairman of the Board. (Some newspaper cuttings re his funeral.) Norman Rose, then with 56 years of service, took over as Chairman and Managing Director. R. T. Lambert, an original (1913) partner in the Rose Line shipping business, commenced employment with the company in 1925 & retired from it on Dec. 31, 1977 after over 50 years of service. D. J. Dorward, a Director and also Transport & Wharf Manager then had had 49 years of service. Ian A. Adamson was a relative newcomer when he joined the Board in 1979! Having had just 15 years of service. It was not only the management that had continuity. Many of the ship's captains clearly had lengthy service with the company. Captains George Russell & George Porter were two such captain who had many years of service.
The corporate history? The data available to the webmaster is really quite fragmentary. Can you add to the history, perhaps? Initially Thomas Rose ('Rose1') was in business in his own name. The business would seem have become 'Thomas Rose & Co.' likely a limited company, yet ships would seem to have been still owned over the years in the name of Rose1. 'Wear Steam Shipping Company Limited' ('Wear1') came along in 1905. In 1913, Rose1 formed 'The Rose Line Ltd.' & it then owned Thomas Rose & Co. & Wylam Wharf. Durham Steamship Company Ltd. also came along in 1913. Wear1 likely went into bankruptcy or dissolution (can anybody confirm that?) in or prior to 1917 when 'Wear Steam Shipping Company (1917) Ltd. ('Wear2) was formed. Wear2 survived until 1931. In passing, 'British Coasters' of 1924 lists Rose1 & Wear2 as both being of 38 West Sunniside, Sunderland, which address was the company's registered office. Deeside Shipping Co., related in a way I do not know, would seem to have been a later company perhaps dating from 1946 thru 1959. There clearly were other companies less directly related to ship owning. 'Wearside Carrier Services Ltd.' as an example, had, I read, a fleet of 'platform lorries' & also 'two bulk powder tankers'.
Some interesting details about individual vessels in the Thomas Rose fleet:-1) Re Sunniside, 447 tons, built in 1905 by Goole Shipbuilding Company Ltd. of Goole.
In Thomas Rose's own words, written about 1940. 'In 1905 I formed the Wear Steam Shipping Company Limited and built the s.s. Sunniside about 500 tons cargo. She was built by the Goole Shipbuilding Company, Ld., and for near ten years ran regularly between Goole and Lowestoft with coals for the British Gas Company. I have known her do three trips a week from Monday to Saturday and arrive back ready to load her fourth cargo on the Monday morning. She was sold to Messrs. Vandenberg during the first world war. She was torpedoed in Yarmouth Roads and there was loss of life.'
2) Re Arnside, 532 tons, built in 1912 by the Sunderland yard of John Crown & Sons Limited.
In Thomas Rose's own words, as above. 'In 1912 I built the Arnside about 520 cargo, a very nice ship which came to an untimely end. She was coming from Liverpool to King's Lynn with a cargo of fertilisers and, when off the Cornish coast, she ran into a severe gale and was lost with all hands. A small boat was washed ashore at Senan Cove but was swamped nearing the shore and three bodies were afterwards found. The boat washed up was found to have the name Arnside.'
Re the same matter, Miramar indicate a little differently 'foundered off Aire Point, Land's End 10.2.14 (all 12*) [Birkenhead-Boston, bagged manure] i.e. foundered on Feb. 10, 1914 with the loss of all 12 lives, while en route from Birkenhead to Boston, U.S.A. An Australian Arnside newspaper cutting is here.
3) Also, earlier re Arnside, on Apl. 12, 1913, the vessel saved the entire crew of Frost, in the North Sea, as you can read below.
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4) Re Arkleside, 648 tons, built in 1914 by A. Hall & Co., of Aberdeen
.... he (Captain George Russell) took over the Arkleside, new in 1914, and on the declaration of war was ordered up to Scapa Flow where his ship was taken over as a transport. During the next 22 months the Arkleside carried cargoes of high explosives to Havre, Dunkirk, & Calais, and after surviving 320 air attacks remained as one of the three survivors from a fleet of 13 ships engaged on this "suicide" run. Perhaps her "gun" was Arkleside's lucky mascot. It was a pit-prop mounted aft to deceive the enemy. On it was painted "Thou shalt not kill!" An Arkleside newspaper cutting is here.
5) Re Cairnside, 559 tons, built in 1921 by A. Hall & Co., of Aberdeen.
In Thomas Rose's own words:- 'I built the Cairnside No. 3. also at Aberdeen but she was also lost, coming from Granville to Hull. My Superintendent Engineer said he was not surprised at her loss as it was her 13th. voyage. She carried 13 men and it was a Friday.' The wreck took place off the island of Herm, W. of Sark, Channel Islands, on Jan. 14, 1922. The ship hit a rock. Captain C. Arundell was in command. All 13 of the crew survived - they could not, in the sea conditions, make Sark in their small boat. They landed at the Chouet on the north side of Guernsey. A Cairnside newspaper cutting is here.
6) Re Edenside, 366 tons, built in 1921 by J. & D. Morris, Pelaw Main Yard, Newcastle.
On Jan. 3, 1922, Edenside, a new ship just over six months old, left the Tyne under the command of Captain John Olsen, with a crew of 8 & with an unspecified cargo. Her normal speed was 8 or 8 1/2 knots. The ship encountered appalling weather, hurricane force winds & mountainous seas & she ended up taking 44 hours to make Bridlington Bay, a distance of just 75 miles - a journey that would normally have taken the ship 7 or 8 hours. A big-time ordeal for the Captain & crew! Some newspaper cuttings re the voyage are here. The Captain & crew were honoured by the Mayor of Sunderland at a formal ceremony, held in the Mayor's Parlour on Apl. 30, 1922.
On the same day that Edenside had left the Tyne, Elleray, 1201 tons, (ship not related to Thomas Rose in any way) had left Hartlepool for London with a cargo of coal. She was never heard from again - lost with her entire crew. I presume that she ran into the very same storm that hit Edenside.Some 'Rose Line' related images:-
The following image is believed to be of the launch party at the launch of a 'Thomas Rose' ship. For a long time I have wondered which ship was being launched & have invited help in the matter. But now we have the answer thanks to James Smith, Thomas Rose's GGG grandson. James tells us the vessel being launched was Brookside and that the launch was on Sep. 23, 1922. It must have been at Goole where Brookside was built. It seems that that is Thomas Rose himself, prominent in the middle of the image. The young girl in the image, just to right of centre? Simon Flack advises, (thanks Simon!), after a family discussion, that the little girl is in fact Doris Rose, Thomas's daughter. But .... a message has now been received from Chris Smith, Thomas Rose's great grandson, who rather indicates that it is the lady holding the bottle (at left in the image) that is Doris Rose. Chris further advises that Doris Rose upon marriage became Doris Shepherd, & that her daughter Kathleen Doris Shepherd later became Kathleen Doris Smith. Chris adds that he is not aware of the identity of the young girl just to right of centre in the image.
I do hope that I have correctly reflected, in the text above, the comments of each of Simon Flack, James Smith & Chris Smith - certainly I have tried to do so. The text is easily amended if necessary.
Simon Flack has been in touch again, in Aug. 2019. As follows:- 'Hi, Just read the article on The Rose Line, We think your correction is correct and that the lady on the left is Doris Rose. We also think that the man on the right in the trilby hat is Norman Rose. Thomas's son, the grand father of my wife Carrie Flack'. Thanks again, Simon.
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And next, a modest but interesting image of Thomas Rose. Can anybody tell us what the instrument is into which he is speaking - related to early wireless perhaps? John Liddle has come to the rescue! He tells us it is an 'Ediphone' - an early wax cylinder voice recorder - marketed by Thomas A. Edison Company in competition to 'Dictaphone', the product of Columbia Phonograph Company & others. Marketed from late 1917. John kindly provided an image of an 'Ediphone' but you can find many images of such machines here. And here is a composite image of a 1920s 'Ediphone' machine. John, we thank you!
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A 'THOMAS ROSE' / 'THOMAS ROSE' & CO.' & successor companies fleet list
In date of build order.1) VESSELS BUILT AT SUNDERLAND
# Name Built
Gross
Built by
Years in fleet
Disposition
1
T. G. Hutton
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1891
703
Short Brothers Ltd.
1918/1919
Sold in 1919 to A. J. Ashwin of London. Wrecked in 1930.
2
Braeside 1909
406
John Crown & Sons Ltd.
1905/1915
Sold in 1915 to Harris Bros. of Falmouth
3
Cairnside 1909
403
John Crown & Sons Ltd.
1905/1912
Sold in 1912 to Okhotsk-Kamchatka Fishing & Shipping Co. of Vladivostok, Russia
4
Arnside 1912
533
John Crown & Sons Ltd.
1909/1914
Vessel foundered off Aire Point, Lands End, on Feb. 10, 1914 on passage from Birkenhead to Boston, U.S.A.
5
Arkleside 1924
1567
Osbourne, Graham & Co.
1924/1927
Sold in Dec. 1927 to Waldos Shipping Co. Ltd. of London. Sunk in Sep. 1939
2) VESSELS NOT BUILT AT SUNDERLAND
# Name Built
Gross
Built by
Years in fleet
Disposition
1
Ravenscraig 1899
350
Dundee Shipbuilders of Dundee
1917/1926
Sold in 1926 to Derwent Steam Shipping Co. Ltd. (Anthony & Bainbridge, managers.)
2
Rosyth 1903
376
Dundee Shipbuilders of Dundee
1917/1919
Sold in 1919 to Dundee, Perth & London Shipping Co. Ltd. of Dundee
3
Earl of Durham
Ex Stock Force1905
583
Williamson of Workington
1914/1915
Sold in 1915 to Care & Eidman Ltd. of Cardiff
4
Sunniside 1905
447
Goole Shipbuilding Company Ltd. of Goole
1905/1916
Sold in 1916 to Tower Steam Shipping Co. Ltd.
5
Edenside
Ex Cardiff City1909
322
J. Fullerton of Paisley
1914/1916
Sold in 1917 to Kynoch-Arklow Ltd. of Dublin
6
Daleside
Ex Archvale
Ex Burlington Combe
Ex Wheatvale
Ex Bellavale1910
448
Mackie & Thomson, of Shipbuilding Yard, Govan, Glasgow
1952/1956
On Nov. 20, 1956, the vessel was sold & broken up at Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht, The Netherlands
7
Deneside 1910
329
J. T. Eltringham & Co. of South Shields
1910/1922
Sold in 1917 to Deneside Steam Shipping Co. Ltd.
8
Cairnside 1913
560
A. Hall & Co. of Aberdeen
1913/1919
Wrecked at Shipwash Sands on Jun. 17, 1919
9
Arkleside 1914
648
A. Hall & Co. of Aberdeen
1914/1922
Sold in 1922 to Tyne-Tees Steam Shipping Co.
10
Rhenass 1914
285
Maryport Ship Building Co. of Maryport, Cumbria
1914/1916
On May 22, 1916, en route from Jarrow to Calais with a cargo of pig iron, the vessel was sunk by a mine from German submarine UC-10, 9 miles off Orford Ness, Aldeburgh. 6 lives were lost.
11
Silverburn 1914
284
Maryport Ship Building and Repair Co. of Maryport, Cumbria
1914/1917
On Jun. 13, 1917, en route from Sunderland to Peterhead with a cargo of coal, the vessel was sunk by gunfire from German submarine UB-41, 4 miles SE of Cove Bay, Aberdeen. No loss of life.
12
Braeside 1915
569
J. Fullerton of Paisley
1915/1917
The vessel went missing - it passed the Downs on Dec. 5, 1917 en route from Blyth to Jersey, with coal. 13
Deedon
Ex Magrix1916
314
Cochrane & Sons, of Selby, North Yorkshire
1946/1955
The vessel was sold in 1955 to Bremner & Co., of Kirkwall, & renamed Orkney Dawn. 14
Earl of Durham
Ex Jolly Christine
Ex Tina1918
313
Baanhoek Sliedrecht N.V., of Sliedrecht, The Netherlands
1925/1928
Sold in 1928 to T. G. Wilton, of London. Wrecked in Jan. 1937
15
Daleside
Ex River Tyne1920
489
John Lewis & Sons Ltd., of Aberdeen
1922/1924
Sold on Nov. 11, 1924 to East Coast Transport Co. of Newcastle.
16
Sunniside 1920
739
Forth Shipbuilding & Engineering Co Ltd, of Alloa, Firth of Forth
1920/1926
Sold in Dec. 1926 to Sea Transport Co. of Guernsey, & renamed Beauport.
17
Brookside
Ex Cliffside
Ex Isabeletta1921
419
J. Crichton, of Saltney, Cheshire
1946/1954
In May 1954 was broken up either at Gateshead or in Holland.
18
Cairnside 1921
559
A. Hall & Co. of Aberdeen
1921/1922
On Jan. 14, 1922 the vessel struck a rock & was wrecked off the island of Herm, W. of Sark, Channel Islands. All 13 crew survived - their small boat landed at the Chouet, Guernsey.
19
Deeness
Ex Beeston1921
466
Cochrane & Sons, of Selby, North Yorkshire
1946/1951
On Feb. 16, 1951, the vessel, en route from St. Peter Port to London, in high winds was wrecked on Vauxville beach near Cherbourg, France. At 49.38.20N/1.51.20W. Tugs were requested but the weather did not permit them to assist. No loss of life. Peter Gill advises us that the crew walked ashore! As per his guestbook message.
20
Edenside 1 1921
366
J. & D. Morris, Pelaw Main Yard, Newcastle
1921/1958
Sold in 1958 & scrapped at Rotterdam on Apl. 8, 1958.
21
Fernside 1921
269
R. B. Harrison & Sons Ltd., of Newcastle
1921/1942
On Feb. 26, 1942 the vessel left Hartlepool & went missing. Believed to have been sunk by an air attack.
22
Glenside 1 Note
Ex Briar
Ex Royal Firth, later Helgebo, Carlo D., Patimax1921
411
Brown's Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co., of Hull
1944/1952
In 1952, the vessel was sold to V. Sorensen & Co. of Copenhagen, Denmark, & renamed Helgebo. Survived until c.1909
23
Moorside 1921
270
R. B. Harrison & Sons Ltd., of Newcastle
1921/1926
Sold in 1926 to Robert Rix & Sons of Hull & renamed Pegrix.
24
Wearside 1921
420
J. Crichton, of Connah's Quay, Flintshire, N. Wales
1921/1930
Sold in 1930 to A. Chester of Middlesburgh, & renamed Moorlands.
25
Brookside, later Welsh Rose, Sussex Birch, Holdernile 1922
581
Goole Shipbuilding & Repairing Company Ltd. of Goole
1922/1929
On Aug. 13, 1928 was sold to R. Hughes & Co. of Liverpool, & renamed Welsh Rose.
26
Deedale
Ex Coquetdale
Ex Kildrummy1924
629
Hall Russell. of Aberdeen
1951/1959
On Jul. 20, 1959, the vessel was scrapped at Delfzijl, The Netherlands. 27
Deeside
Ex Glenapp Castle
Ex Red Sea
Ex Gem1924
640
Scott & Sons Bowling Ltd., of Bowling, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland
1958/1959
In Nov. 1959, the vessel was scrapped at Nieuwe Lekkerkerk, South Holland 28
Glenside
Ex Cornel
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1938
353
E. J. Smit & Zoon Scheepswerven BV, of Westerbroek, The Netherlands
1957/1965
On Apl. 6, 1965, the vessel was sold to G. & M. Amiridakis of Greece, & renamed Michael A.
29
Edenside
Ex Empire Firth
Ex Annick1941
315
Richard Ironworks Ltd., of Lowestoft
1958/1968
Sold in 1968 to North East by East Shipping Co. Ltd. of Sunderland & soon N. Jadavji & S. G. Hirji of Mombasa, Kenya.
'ROBERT H. GAYNER' of Sunderland
Clive Ketley advises me that Robert H. Gayner was a Justice of the Peace, and Chairman of the 'Sunderland and South Shields Water Co.'. He was a 'River Wear Commissioner' & on the 'Pilotage Board'. I do not have dates for the above however. Clive also refers to there being references to G. H. Gayner, maybe related, in trade directories, from 1867 to 1925. In 1867 at 68 Nile Street, in 1878 at 2 East Sunniside & in 1918 at Maritime Buildings on St. Thomas Street.
A fleet list is below.
That is about all that I know about 'Gayner'. The WWW references to 'Gayner' are essentially non-existent. Maybe you might add to the knowledge?A 'GAYNER' FLEET LIST
A list of fleet vessels. While I have tried to make it both complete & accurate, errors can easily 'creep in' when you access multiple sources for data. Corrections (or additions) are invited.
Please note, however, that Robert H. Gayner might best be described as the managing owner. He did own 100% of a number of the vessels listed below, (Warden Law built 1862, Derwent built 1868, & Northernhay built 1885). But he seems not to have owned 100% of the others. Vessel ownership was in 1/64th shares. So re Avon, built 1859, as an example, he owned 48/64 of the vessel with the balance, of 16/64, being owned by H. F. Fisher, an investor in the ownership of that particular ship. And so on through the other ships named.1) VESSELS BUILT AT SUNDERLAND
#
Name
Built
Gross
Built by
Years in fleet
Disposition
1
Derwent, ON 20147
1857
258
W. R. Abbay & Co.
1857/1867
Collided & sank 1867
2
Avon 1859
263
Robert Pace, or maybe John Blumer
1859/1873
Sold to J. Dobson of Blyth
3
Warden Law 1862
347
J. Haswell
1862/1870
Abandoned 1870
4
Wye 1863
348
John Blumer
1863/1864
Transferred to London
5
Hubert 1864
325
John Thompson
1862/1872
Sold 1872
6
Lasborough 1866
965
Iliff & Mounsey
1866/1868
Went missing 1868
7
Severn 1867
398
Jacky Crown
1867/1881
Collided with Mayumba off Madiera & sank 1881
8
Derwent 1868
394
J. Crown
1868/1883
Transferred to Grimsby
9
Larkspur 1868
417
James Laing
1868/1883
Lost 1883
10
Humbledon 1870
433
J. Gill
1870/1873
Lost 1873
11
Offerton 1870
538
J. Gill
1870/1884
Sold
12
Warden Law 1871
477
J. Gill
1871/1883
Transferred to Grimsby
13
Beech Holm 1876
808
James Laing
1876/1898
Sold to Italian owners
14
Foxglove 1878
840
James Laing
1878/1883
Transferred to Liverpool
15
Amity 1880
1165
Robert Thompson
1880/1883
Sunk by India
16
Westward Ho 1884
1241
James Laing
1885/1900
Sold to E. Holtzapfel of Hamburg, Germany
17
Northernhay 1885
1269
James Laing
1885/1909
Sold to Italian owners
18
Wychwood 1889
1272
James Laing
1889/1911
Sold in 1911
19
Windrush 1891
1532
Robert Thompson
1891/1912
Sold to Canadian owners
2) VESSELS NOT BUILT AT SUNDERLAND
#
Name Built
Gross
Built by
Years in fleet
Disposition
1
Anna Catherine 1841
255
1854/1855
Lost
2
Foxglove 1868
485
Rearden or Reardon of Stockton
1868/1872
Sold
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