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This page is truly a page in progress! It was born out of the
expressions of difficulty of site visitors in finding data re family members involved in the
Volturno disaster of 1913. There
are many gaps in the data you will find below but I trust the information I can
provide will help a few families at least speed their search for family roots. However, if you can help me fill in the
missing information, I would surely like
to hear from you.
The search will be easiest for those who know the name
of the vessel by which their ancestors were rescued. If not, there appears to be no short cut!
BUT wait! In that regard, I have received a kind message from John Peters, one of the volunteer folks at jewishgen.org. He
tells me that
you can go here
& once there enter 2218 in the right box labeled
'roll' & 388 in the right box labeled 'frame' & then hit 'display' & you can then go page by page through all of
the Ellis Island manifest
pages that relate to the Volturno survivors, running from page 388 through
498, courtesy of Dr. Stephen Morse's search facility. So that IS an alternate method to try to track the
Volturno survivors who were recorded by Ellis Island - maybe
your family members.
And if any of the links do not work,
or work incorrectly, on this or any other page, do please let me
know.
The page may very well save some 'bandwidth' for
the Ellis Island site! I
do hope that it does.
Since this page was created, the Board of Trade Report has become available. I have modified
my previously reported numbers to reflect the content of the official Report.
| Vessel Name |
Total saved |
# |
Names
Plus |
Other Data |
Comments etc. |
| Carmania |
1 |
|
|
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|
| (Fishguard) |
|
1 |
|
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Just Walter Trentepohl
(page 35). |
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1 |
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| Czar |
102 |
|
|
|
Not sure where to find data |
| (Rotterdam) |
|
3 |
497 |
496 |
These
via Campanello ex Rotterdam. |
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9 |
410 |
409 |
And
these also via Campanello |
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|
30 |
406 |
405 |
And
these via Campanello (& 404) |
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Most likely the groups that follow |
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19 |
479 |
|
To Halifax on Campanello, destined Canada |
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24 |
478 |
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To Halifax on Campanello, destined U.S.A. |
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4 |
477 |
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To Halifax on Campanello, destined U.S.A. |
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3 |
473 |
|
Probably the Schuberts (see page 21, 3 persons).
To Quebec on Canada,
destined Canada, ex Liverpool |
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5 |
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Still to be located |
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|
97 |
|
|
Passenger sub-total. All men. The correct number there should be. As
confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry per site page 17. |
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5 |
|
|
Volturno crew? I believe it is correctly five as per page
64, despite Spurgeon's
words on page 43. In
fact Brown, Carter, Underwood, Holl and one more - possibly Paul (the last per Jan Daamen) |
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------ |
|
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102 |
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------ |
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| Devonian |
59 |
|
|
|
Not sure where to find data |
| (Liverpool) |
|
4 |
418 |
417 |
Lines 6 through 9, Jablonecki (page 71) certainly
via Uranium ex Rotterdam |
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|
1 |
397 - 1 |
396 - 1 |
Line 1, certainly, via Carmania (1) ex Liverpool (Dudowitz/Budavitch) (Page 68) |
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2 |
481 |
472 |
These
certainly via Carmania (2) ex Liverpool |
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|
27 |
397 |
396 |
Probably
Lines 2 thru 28 via Carmania (1) ex Liverpool |
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|
15 |
393 |
392 |
Probably these also via Carmania (1) |
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5 |
473 |
|
Probably these, ex the Schuberts (3 persons).
To Quebec on Canada, destined Canada, ex Liverpool |
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1 |
428 - 7 |
427 - 7 |
Branislaw Dombrowski (Line 7) (page
68) via
Olympic, (image),
ex Southampton |
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1 |
|
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An 18 month infant delayed in Rotterdam
by illness. He arrived in the U.S. in late 1913 or very early 1914. Arrival
vessel not yet known. Check the 'Jablonecki' link 7 lines up. |
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|
3 |
|
|
Still to be located |
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|
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|
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|
59 |
|
|
Confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page 17. |
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|
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| Grosser Kurfürst |
105 |
29 |
440 |
439 |
|
| (New York) |
|
19 |
444 |
443 |
|
| (lots of detail
on page 72) |
|
22 |
448 |
447 |
|
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|
1 |
436 |
435 |
|
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12 |
432 |
431 |
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|
83 |
|
|
Passenger sub-total. All men. The correct number there should be. As confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. |
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|
4 |
452 |
451 |
Clearly Volturno crew. Page 451 says so. |
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1 |
456 |
455 |
Clearly Volturno crew. |
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17 |
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Volturno crew (page 72)
but ex the three names that are included in manifest pages 452 & 456. But
the numbers do not agree. |
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|
105 |
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| Kroonland |
89 |
26 |
460 |
459 |
|
| (New York) |
|
14 |
464 |
463 |
|
|
(lots of detail on page 77) |
|
29 |
469 |
468 |
|
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5 |
489 |
488 |
Includes
3 later identified children. See link extreme left. |
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|
389 |
388 |
Said to be duplicates,
and they are indeed though the names are very strange. Patola should be Badowa
or Badirowa. |
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1 |
|
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Still to be located. |
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|
75 |
|
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Passenger sub-total. The correct number there should be. As confirmed by the Board of Trade Inquiry
Report (but not per the testimony as per site page
17.) |
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|
14 |
485 |
484 |
Crew of the
Volturno. |
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|
89 |
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------ |
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| La Touraine |
42 |
|
|
|
Not sure where to find data |
| (Le Havre) |
|
7 |
418 |
417 |
Lines 1-4, & 10-12, via Uranium |
| (lots of detail on page
81) |
|
26 |
401 |
400 |
These via La Touraine ex Le Havre |
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4 |
|
|
Still to be located.
Names are on page 81. |
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2 |
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Still to be located. |
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39 |
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Passenger number NOT confirmed at the Board of
Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. Supposed
to be 39 passengers. Something is wrong. |
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|
3 |
|
|
Crew of the
Volturno.
Probably stayed in Europe. Names are on page 81. |
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42 |
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| Minneapolis |
29 |
|
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|
Not sure where to find data |
| (Gravesend) |
|
27 |
428 |
427 |
Probably these via
Olympic, (image),
but excluding Dombrowski (Line 7 - see Devonian above) ex
Southampton |
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|
2 |
|
|
Still to be located
- male passengers I believe. |
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|
29 |
|
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Confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. |
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| Narragansett |
29 |
|
|
|
Not sure where to find data |
| (Gravesend) |
|
27 |
|
|
Still to be located
- passengers. Passenger number confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. |
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|
2 |
|
|
Still to be located
- Volturno crew? I think so. The Liverpool Echo advised that the
baker and a steerage steward had been rescued. |
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29 |
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| Rappahannock |
19 |
11 |
8
&
493 |
492 |
To
New York aboard Florizel. |
| (Halifax) |
|
8 |
480 |
|
Includes 7 stayed in Canada |
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See also 414
and 413 |
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19 |
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Looks
OK! Confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. |
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Seydlitz (Philadelphia)
|
45 |
29 |
423 |
421 |
Passenger sub-total. I think the correct number there should be. Confirmed at the Board of Trade Inquiry
per site page
17. |
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16 |
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Volturno crew -
list from New York Times is on page 36 |
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45 |
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Unknown rescue vessel |
|
1 |
418 |
417 |
Line 5 via Uranium ex Rotterdam |
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14 |
476 |
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To Quebec on Royal Edward, 13 destined U.S.A., 1 Canada, probably
ex Avonmouth, U.K. |
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2 |
475 |
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To Quebec on Royal Edward, destined U.S.A. |
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7 |
474 |
|
To Quebec on Royal Edward, destined U.S.A. |
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24 |
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1 |
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A
2 1/2 year old child, sex unknown, probably landed in Europe but arrived at a
Canadian port, once identified. See 21. |
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1 |
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A
15 year old boy, landed in Europe but probably arrived at a
Canadian port, once identified. See 21. |
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1 |
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A
father who surely arrived at a
Canadian port, in December, 1913. By which vessel? See 21. |
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27 |
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Total saved |
520 |
|
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| Total
manifested plus Trentepohl |
|
456 |
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All the
red numbers above |
The numbers re only one of the ships seems, so far, to agree!
(Rappahannock).
There are so
far, as you can see above, 24 passengers ex the Volturno who arrived
in the U.S. aboard the
Uranium or in Canada aboard the Royal Edward
where the name of the rescue
vessel is not known to, or cannot be 'guesstimated' by the Webmaster. So I do not therefore know where they should correctly be placed in the above table. We will
need other contemporary lists to be able to figure that out!
But I suspect
that the
bottom 23 of the 24 are from the Narragansett.
And Walter Trentepohl seems
not to be listed with those I have so far found referenced to the
Carmania.
We should keep in mind, however, that some passengers who were rescued
& landed in Europe, may have
decided
to return to their original homes & declined to take new passage to North America. And would never therefore be listed on Ellis
Island. I presume also that some of the passengers were European tourists & after their
ordeal may have decided enough was enough & did not return. And other
passengers were U.S. citizens. And maybe would not be listed on Ellis Island
when they arrived in the U.S.? And the crew of the Volturno is a
puzzle also. It would seem that many crew members were not manifested or, I
should restate that, I have not yet found them to have been manifested. But
maybe they were! But would they normally be manifested at all since they
presumably were not immigrating to the U.S.? Lots of reasons, perhaps, for the numbers to be
less than perfect.
I now know that, in fact, twenty of the survivors who were landed in Europe returned to their former homes
& chose not to travel back to North America on another vessel. That information comes from
a report of the American Red Cross on the relief activities conducted in 1913
& 1914 for the Volturno survivors, a report that is now on site
(a large part of it at least) & accessible here. The vessels on which those 20
survivors were
landed back in Europe was not stated, alas. With that data, were it available, I could
significantly advance the above list.
I have a way to go yet to
assemble even the correct number of ships, let alone, the correct number of passengers! The text of that Red Cross report in part reads as
follows. 'There were 562 passengers on the VOLTURNO, of which 103
were lost. Of the 459 who were saved,
348 eventually came to the port
of New York on fourteen different ships, and 91 others were landed in Canada.
Twenty of the survivors who were landed in Europe returned to their former
homes.' Of the vessels that I am aware of, only 9 are in my list (if one includes the
Seydlitz, if, that is, it is correct that that vessel went on from
Philadelphia to New York. It would seem that it did, judging by the Red Cross
report words). I have excluded from my numbers the vessels which went
to Canada & did not, to my knowledge, also visit New York. So I am
missing, from a list that I thought was quite advanced, no fewer than 5 ships!
And therefore the survivors that they all brought to the U.S.! I should not
place 100% accuracy on that Red Cross report, but it is amazingly detailed & they were clearly intimately aware of all of the
Volturno passengers even those who were lost. And so far that report
does seem to be, in fact, astonishingly accurate. My nine are as follows:
Campanello, Uranium, Carmania, Grosser Kurfürst,
Kroonland, La Touraine, Olympic,
Florizel and Seydlitz. Can anybody tell me which
five vessels I am missing? Link below if you can.
If you were to try to tally up the numbers above, my list would seem to be slightly inaccurate. I seem to have 351
passenger survivors coming to New York & only 87 going to Canada. But we are getting close!
THE PORTS (OTHER THAN U.S. PORTS) AND SHIPS
A little list that has helped me track the timings of the various vessels and therefore the survivors.
|
Port |
Name of rescue ship and date of arrival |
Ships leaving that port and date of departure |
| Fishguard
|
Carmania, Oct 13, 1913 |
|
| Rotterdam
|
Czar, Oct 14, 1913 |
Campanello, October 16, 1913 |
|
|
|
Uranium, November 1, 1913 |
| Liverpool
|
Devonian, Oct 14, 1913 |
Carmania (1), October 18, 1913 |
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Canada, October 18, 1913 |
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Carmania (2), November 15, 1913 |
| Le Havre |
La Touraine,
Oct 14, 1913 |
La Touraine, October 18, 1913? |
| Gravesend
|
Minneapolis, Oct 14, 1913 |
|
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Narragansett,
Oct 16, 1913 |
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| Southampton |
|
Olympic, October
15, 1913 |
| Avonmouth |
|
Royal Edward, October
??, 1913 |
| Halifax |
Rappahannock, Oct 14, 1913 |
Florizel, October 15, 1913
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Note re Avonmouth: The city of Bristol is inland on the Avon River in the West of England. Avonmouth is the deep water
port at the mouth of the
Avon River, for ships unable, because of their large size, to travel up river to Bristol itself.
THOSE WHO WERE LOST
I started a little list to assemble data about Volturno passengers that were lost in the disaster. A small list indeed
at this moment. Just 6 names as recorded below. Since that list was commenced, I now learn that a list of passengers (but not
Volturno
crew) who were
lost, a list originating
from the general agent in New York of the Uranium Steamship Company, was published in the New York Times on
Friday, Oct. 24, 1913. That list
contained 102 names. The
text indicated that the list may later change when 3 more vessels arrive with survivors. It also states that 30 crew were lost.
I have a print of part of that list but the quality of the print is very poor
indeed. I will try, in the future to include here that list, once I have
rechecked the microfilm. If, in the meantime, any visitor wants such data they might locate it
through their local big city main reference library I trust. Hopefully in good
legible detail.
But now that data IS on site and in good order I believe. See site page
09 for the exact texts. I think that I should somehow include
that data on this page also, but have to yet figure out how to integrate it with the data I already have.
The numbers are quite confusing! I am advised that the Board of Trade provided a casualty report to Parliament in London,
England, but not until 1920 because of the intervention of WW1. It advised that 134 lives were lost
in the Volturno disaster, specifically 104 passengers & 30
crew. Thank you David Asprey for that most interesting data!
Even though I have difficulty in reading all of
the New York Times text, I can see that there are three Kutkowski's in the list with names indicated. But there is no sign that I can see of my items
4 and 5, i.e. no Sapsen or Tourneur however spelled.
As I come across, if I do, names or data about Volturno
passengers who were lost in the disaster, I will record them here. 6 passengers
so far.
If any visitor can clarify
(or correct) or provide more information about any of these
matters, I would truly welcome
their help.
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