ALBERT (OR ALBRECHT) SCHENCK (1828-1901)
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FOUND (YEAR?)

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Now many visitors are interested in the print known as 'Found'. Which work is also known as 'Shepherd's Call'. And maybe visit this site in their search for data about that particular work.

This site suggests that Found could be the work of two other artists - Walter Hunt (1861-1941) & his brother Edgar Hunt (1876-1953). You can see many examples of both Walter's and Edgar's work via the WWW. Anyway, while I include the Found image in this Schenck website, I too have to wonder if it is Schenck's work. Now, I am not an art expert, & I may be wrong in my personal conclusion ~ but it is my belief that it is NOT the work of Auguste (August) Friedrich (Frederic) Albrecht (Albert) Schenck (1828-1901). It is simply not his style! Could it be the work of one of the Hunt brothers, perhaps Walter? My inclination on that matter is less certain, but to my eye it seems not to be in the style of either of Edgar or Walter Hunt. It is Walter whose name is most frequently mentioned as the artist.

There the matter must today rest. But, for what it is worth, the webmaster believes that the work was probably painted by neither of the three artists mentioned, but rather by an unknown commercial artist employed by one of the litho companies. In much the same way that unnamed artists today may create greetings cards & verses also.

Now the webmaster is quite diligent in checking regularly on e-Bay for items related to Albert Schenck. But checks less often for this work. So he missed the wonderful image that follows, which was provided to me by Denis Burke, of Runnells, Iowa. Denis tells me that it is a scan of a 6" by 8" print which he some years ago found listed on e-Bay & that the scan is close indeed to what an original would look like. The image Denis gave me is enormous & I had to reduce its size so you can see it on a single screen without scrolling. I lost some detail when I did that, so the entire image Denis provided can be seen here. It is giant. Be warned. Do view it full size! The now expired e-Bay listing stated that the print was printed in 1949. It sold for U.S. $10.50.

Two site visitors have kindly written to me to advise me that www.artnet.com are currently (late Aug. 2004) displaying a painting attributed to Walter Hunt listed by Guarisco Gallery Ltd. of 2828 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Ste B, Washington, DC 20007-3719. The listing indicates that the work, entitled 'Rescue of a Lost Friend', is an oil on canvas, 52" wide and 36" high, signed & dated by W. Hunt at lower left (date of 1906). The listing invites a call to the gallery for the selling price, but one of my visitors, Suzie from Texas, has advised me that she did call & was advised that the painting, in fact, has been sold. I do hope that showing the image & data on this informational & non-profit site will be permitted.

The image that follows is NOT therefore the image that appears on the widely available print, most often attributed to Schenck.

Now the purpose of this site is to inform, & there is a lot of doubt as to which artist actually painted the work generally known as 'Found' i.e. the top image on this page. And I must point out that that famous print & the W. Hunt 'Guarisco' painting, entitled 'Rescue of a Lost Friend' are not the same work. I now show them side by side so that you can view both works at the same time. While the theme is indeed similar, the differences between the two works are surely many!

Is it possible that you have an explanation? If you do, I would be most happy to add it to this page (contact data at foot of page).

Prints of the 'Hunt' painting, i.e. the right image of the above pair, were available via 'hoofprints_auctions' of Alexandria, Indiana. Available for U.S. $19.95, via e-Bay, in Sep. 2009. The vendor indicated that the original work is rather 45 x 30 inches in size & was painted & signed by Walter Hunt in 1906. The vendor also states that the prints (17 x 11 inches image area) are available as a result of arrangements made with 'Burlington Painting Gallery', of the U.K.

One of my visitors was Wanda Husick of Pennsylvania who is an antique dealer who specialises in prints. She advises (thank you Wanda!) that it was a common practice for artists to do different versions of the same picture for different markets & especially for mass-produced prints like those published by Goes Litho, in this case. And that it was not an unusual thing for painters for the mass market to plaguerise another artist's work & get away with it. And lastly, Wanda advises that the artist's signature may well have been on the original oil painting that was used for the Goes prints. But for exact reasons today unknown, Goes may have cropped the image when publishing it so that the signature no longer showed in the published print.

None of that data resolves the puzzle, as to the true name of the artist who painted Found, but it surely does help the general level of understanding of the issues, background & circumstances.

Denis Burke, referred to above, is very knowledgeable indeed about this work, having grown up with it in his family home from a very young age. He tells me that Lowell Davis, now perhaps out of business, produced a collectible statuette of Found, available in the period of 1988 thru 1991 at the cost of approximately U.S. $250. Lowell called it 'Winter Lamb'. You can see that statuette in both of the images contained within my 'composite image' which next follows. And can see Lowell himself at the link just provided. At left below is a Found painting, under glass, but not an original print. Rather a fine reproduction done by Denis Burke who painted wildlife as a hobby for many years and is clearly very skilled. A very fine reproduction indeed!

As a result of a collaborative effort with Jan of caledoniamission we learn that a Found print, which was given as a gift in 1934, turned up for sale on e-Bay in Nov. 2002. On the back was the notice which appears below. In 1934, Walter Hunt was still alive, & would perhaps have corrected the data had it been incorrect. Actually the notice was on two 'for sale' prints on e-Bay in Nov. 2002. But only this notice was legible. The 1934 gift wording is underneath. It reads, we are told, 'Dec 25 1934 Nowa Ness Perry Valley School' And on the print, bottom left was '(C) C L CO.' and bottom front right 'G P 1372 LITHO, IN U.S.A.' And re another such print, for sale on e-Bay in Jan. 2003, 'There is an old sticker on the back, which says, 'in our picture department reproductions of the NEW FAMOUS PAINTING "FOUND", BY W. Hunt'. Most of the sticker is gone. Again, this is OLD, probably dates to around 1900.' Katherine McCrea, a site visitor, tells me that her 84 year old mother-in-law just gave her a print of the work, previously owned by her mother-in-law's grandmother. And the family believes the print to be about 120 years old.

BUT, Denis Burke tells me that he traced the litho that decorated his parent's home when he was a child to a litho company in Chicago. And that company still exists to this very day & is now in its 130th year of business (since 1879)! It is Goes Lithographing Company, Walter Goes Co. or Goes Litho of 42 W 61st Street, Chicago, Illinois, 60621. From their site, it would seem that today, Goes specialises in certificates of various kinds, including stock certificates, a most demanding area. Their art prints were marked 'GL CO', and seeing that, I think that the vendor of the e-Bay item described above & appearing (notice) below perhaps misread the lettering. It is very easy to misread a G as a C especially if the lettering is small. So I think that Denis has solved another small mystery concerning the print. Denis's memory is, but he is not 100% sure, that he spoke many years ago with a 4th generation member of the Goes family, perhaps Chris Goes, & that Chris too believed the work was attributable to Walter Hunt.

In Feb. 2005, an e-Bay item advised me of a 'GL CO' print with another number, specifically G P 693. A 5x7 inch print. Lynda of montana_papa, the vendor, advised 'this was given as a gift to the then owner's mother on December 25, 1940, as is written in handwriting on the back cardboard'.

And I now learn that there is at least a third Goes print number also, GL CO G P 1248, which data is recorded on a 12x16 print owned by Darris Yeager, of Olympia, Washington. Thanks for that detail, Darris! The identical data is also recorded, (so Ron Buol of Sedona, Arizona, the vendor advises me) on another 12x16 print sold on e-Bay in early Sep. 2005. And Ron has a 6 x 8 inch print which bears the number G P 1290.

In Dec. 2011, a kind message was received from Danielle Rettich of British Columbia, Canada. Danielle's message contained images of the markings upon a 'Found' print upon which Danielle was working. A print such as the one which is depicted here. Now I do not recall receiving in the past images of such markings & show them next since they will be of interest to many site visitors.

It is my belief that the copyright markings at left, to the right of the copyright mark means Goes Lithographing Company. Why do  I suggest that? I think, that the outer incomplete 'ring' that looks like a C is in fact a G. It has an extra bar that coverts a C into a G. And within that outer mark is what I would read as L Co. Hence my conclusion that it would mean Goes Lithographic Company. Having now seen the marks, I believe that any references on this page to (C) really meant the copyright mark. Probably because finding a copyright symbol to put in an e-mail message is a bit of a chore. See the next section for the meaning of G P 1248

The markings upon a 'Found' print.

THE MEANING AND SIGNIFICANCE OF THE G.P. PRINT NUMBERS

For a long time I have wondered of the significance of the print numbers - G P 1248, G P 1372  etc. Now, in Aug. 2005, thanks to the kindness and interest of Ron Buol, we have the answer.

Ron, I understand, has been in the print business for nearly 30 years, & advises as follows:

The G.P. does not mean 'Goes Printing' which is what the webmaster thought it might represent. Rather it means 'Giant Photos' surely the company for whom 'Goes Litho' printed as required. 'Giant Photos' sold prints & posters to school children for decades. The school children could, apparently, order prints of their choice through the teacher, who had the large order form of items available. For example, they could order an 8 by 10 inch size of the 'Found' print for 25 cents or 35 cents for the larger 16 by 20 size (the dimensions there and to follow are all in inches). It was also available in the following standard framing sizes as it was extremely popular - 5x7, 6x8, 8x10, 9x12, 12x16, 16x20, and 22x28. Due to the tremendous popularity of this print, it might have also been printed in the standard 11x14 and 14x18. Ron is not sure, because he has never handled those two sizes. The 22x28 was expensive, it cost 60 cents! Hundreds of thousands of prints were sold to school children by 'Giant Photos'.

The most common are the two most popular sizes, 8x10 inches and 16x20 inches. These two sizes remained in print & were sold by 'Giant Photos' through the 1960s and Ron thinks even into the early 1970s. The other sizes were all discontinued earlier. The most difficult to find is the 22x28 inches. This is really hard to find. In nearly 30 years in the print business, Ron has only had 4 or 5 that size.

So G P 1248 and all the other G P numbers were 'Giant Photos' catalogue numbers. For example, if you ordered the 12 by 16 size 'Found' print, It was catalog number G P 1248. The 22 by 28 print was, I learn, number G P 2346. Each size of each title had a different catalog order number. Ron had one of the 'Giant Photos' catalogs about 15 years ago & wishes he had kept it.

Ron also mentions:

1) a 'Giant Photos' print which had a border of 1/8" around the edge (which is unusual I gather since there is normally absolutely no border). 'No. 601 FOUND .....Walter Hunt (English) Private Collection'. He believes that to be the last printing of 'Found' & was still available in the 1970s.
2) Ron believes that in the 1920s the work was sold as a print lithographed by Borin Mfg. Co. of Chicago. The work was entitled 'A Call For Help', as Ron recalls it. But he never actually owned or saw one.
3) that the 1960s & early 1970s printings of 'Found' which were sold by 'Giant Photos' do not have the rich color of the earlier printings. It is not, however, something that you probably would realise unless you can see earlier & later prints side by side. An amazing difference in color! Particularly visible in the brown color of the dog's coat. The 1930s to 1950s printings have a nicer, deeper, richer color. What they changed in the printing process Ron does not know, but the really fine color was gone in the 60s. The rule is that earlier printings have better color, provided, of course, they are not age faded.
4) The most popular prints Ron has ever sold are: 1. 'Found' or 'Shepherd's Call', 2. 'The Lone Wolf', 3. 'Spring Song', and 4. 'The Guardian Angel'.

That is all wonderful new data, Ron. We thank you so much!

To add further information (or further confuse!) an e-Bay item in Jul. 2006 offered the print by a vendor who said he had had it since he was a small child and was then pushing 70. His print, which he indicates is 13 x 17 inches (Webmaster: presumably a 12 x 16 actual print) has on its back 'Radio Picture Frame Co., Brooklyn, NY.' & two sets of numbers above the print name & framemaker.  They are R41448 and 3503/1. Could those be Reliance numbers? Read on.

And I am advised of a 9 x 12 print with the following recorded upon it. L38306 & 8(?)30  (correspondent could really make out the 4 #’s), Shepherds Call, Radio Picture Frame Co., Inc., 104 So. 4th St., Brooklyn, NY.

And an e-Bay item in Sep. 2006, listed for sale a 12x16 inch print of 'Found' with 'G P 158 Lithograph USA.' recorded upon it. And another, in Jul. 2007, entitled 'SHEPHERD'S CALL', G P 153 of 16x20 inches.

I was happy to learn, in early Feb. 2007, that the painting is shown in a Keith Urban music video. The video has, I am advised, Keith playing the piano with snow falling. The song is 'Tonight I Want To Cry'. We thank Beth Chuck, a border collie owner from Fort Mill, South Carolina, for that information.

I am advised that a copy of the print is on display at the birthplace of John Wayne at Winterset, Iowa. John (Johnny) S. Stanton, of Gary, North Carolina, kindly advised me of that interesting information.

And I was astonished to find that the work has become the face of a battery driven clock! Image is here if you too are curious. And it is also featured on a cotton tapestry throw/afghan, available regularly via e-Bay.

Does anybody know anything about the company mentioned just above i.e. the Reliance of 'Another Reliance Product'. Could it be Reliance Reproduction Co. perhaps, whose name I have seen but have no information whatsoever about. Ron Buol tell me that 'Reliance' Company was a picture framing company. They purchased prints wholesale in various sizes & framed them. The framed products were sold to the public in stores like F. W. Woolworth, Ben Franklin, Kress, 5 and 10 cent stores etc. They were inexpensive framed pictures for the masses.

A site visitor, Ms. Susan B. Kerestes, has given me an image of another label or notice, substantially similar to the one above, but slightly different in its wording. It does not bear the 'Reliance' name but does state the artist to be W. Hunt. So we now know there was more than one label text. Thanks Susan!

And a charming image that I hope you will enjoy. The collie is named Sydney, I gather! Again thanks to Denis Burke.

More when I get more! Maybe YOU could provide new data or could provide a clue as to where new data about Found might be found. No pun intended! I would truly welcome your input.

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